Air-powered rifles as part of a prepper gear?

  1. I mean there are pellet guns that can hit 1200fps these days with one pump More than enough for some small game with a well place shot 🤷‍♂️

  2. Self defense? Not a good option. Food? Great in my opinion. You can find some very powerful options online. I bought a .177 caliber online for under 100 bucks. Works great for squirrels or nasty roosters. I had a rooster that hated my daughter for no reason. She loved to feed him and talk to him. He started trying to spur her through the fence. Needless to say he isn’t with us anymore due to a well placed round.

  3. Bro we had a rooster like that. Scared my little nephew so bad he ran clean out of his boots screaming like a little girl. My dad bet me $20 that the air rifle I had couldn't kill it in one clean shot from 50 yards. I used the $20 to fill my tank 😂 (this was 2016)

  4. There are air rifles powerful enough for self defense. They're also very expensive. You can even get one that's fully automatic.

  5. Totally agree with the usefulness for getting food with one of these. I'd recommend the .22 caliber version. Good for landing rabbits as well as squirrels and nasty roosters.

  6. Some things that weren't touched on by other comments about airguns (speaking for pcp rifle users)((will be comparing it against a standard .22lr rifle)):

  7. The advantage is really cheap ammo and doesn't break the sound barrier so its more discreet, although agree a 22r rifle has similar advantages

  8. What about for popping squirrels and iguanas in my suburban backyard to keep them away from my garden? To me, it seems like an air rifle is ideal as I don't want anything too powerful. My yard isn't that big.

  9. Ones like the Gamo Whisper .22 with a built-in silencer can be very nice. They're powerful enough to take birds, squirrel, and even rabbits, and they're near-silent with the heavier subsonic pellets. Most versions are break-action / spring piston, so you're not reliant on having compressed air available. For self-defense, though, they're a single shot and, while they can potentially kill a human if you hit them just right, it's by no means guaranteed you won't just piss them off. I think an airgun definitely has a place. Hunting small game, dispatching snakes, etc. But given the dependence of higher-powered ones on compressed air I don't consider larger ones field-maintainable.

  10. If you're in the US just get a 22lr rifle. About the same price if you're going to buy a decent air rifle.

  11. I have had a ruger airhawk for about 8 years now and the sucker still pops squirrels and rats easily. I haven’t done any work on it other then mounting a cheap red dot.

  12. Not really a viable self defense option. If reduction of noise signature is your ultimate goal then suppressing a larger caliber firearm is your best bet for hunting and the possibility of self defense. Obviously taking in to consideration that is a larger investment, but will greatly increase the scope of usability vs an air rifle.

  13. +1 on them being a small game hunting option but not for self defense. Keeping it simple goes a long long way when there's lots of other things to do. On the fence between spring vs gas shock...would definitely prefer break barrel vs forearm pump/pcp. I opted for gas shock as it tends to stay cocked for long durations when hunting and they're supposed to be better in really cold weather. Pcps are awesome...as long as you have pressurized tanks and a way to repressurize those tanks. You can use solar/batteries/generator/etc but way simpler to just not need that and break a barrel. If you've never used a manual pump to pressurize a pcp it's A LOT of pumping...for me it's stupid ridiculous. For me for hunting 22 over 177...but that's a forever debated topic.

  14. A good 22 or 25 pellet gun has equivalent muzzle energy to 22 short. Far from ideal for self defense but I certainly would not volunteer to be shot by one.

  15. It would be a pretty cheap and efficient way to hunt small game. A couple thousand pellets would be really cheap, and could supplement small game hunting.

  16. Honestly not a bad idea for hunting anyways. A decent pellet rifle isn't too expensive, and you could probably get 10,000 pellets for like $100. You could harvest squirrels, woodchuck, and other small game basically forever, and pretty stealthily too.

  17. They can be useful but typically have issues with parts wearing out or drying. A simple bolt action or break open single shot .22 will far outlast and out preform any airgun of similar caliber.

  18. So, the biggest use, IMO, airsoft has for preppers is in skill building before SHTF. Doing airsoft right teaches gun discipline, ammo conservation, trigger and barrel safety, etc. It teaches you how to learn about the way your weapon functions, how to clean it in the field, how to troubleshoot when things malfunction. It is a cost effective way to run drills, which in turn gives you exercise. People will say that airsoft experience doesn't translate to real gun use, and I would like to direct you to this video that shows it very much does:

  19. Like the other person said, I’d just get a Marlin Model 60 or a Ruger 10/22 Takedown. You can probably get a pretty cheap Savage .22. Just more utility than an air rifle.

  20. Add quiet 22 ammo to the mix and you’ve solved the noise factor while still delivering as much or more energy as most air rifles

  21. I know alot of people are saying a 10/22 and they are right. What I would like to add is you can buy different stocks/lowers to customize it. If you need it fir squirrel you can put a different lower than if you need it for protection. Also I also would add it's gonna be about the same decible as an air gun however, stock up on 22 quiets. They will be silent and as long as you get ones that are over 800 fps it will cycle through the rifle no problem! If you have questions just let me know

  22. They're a valid addition to your regular firearms. They're particularly good for small game and varmints. Self defense not so much, unless you don't have access to real guns, and even then you're probably better off learning archery.

  23. They can be used but are less effective in almost every way. A suppressed .22 will out perform any small air rifle and any other rifle will out perform a big bore air rifle. So while they can get the job done they just do so slower and with less power.

  24. Yes, because it’s better than nothing. At least a .25 cal with a Rotary mag x2. And there is a guy out of Great Britain that machines a casting tool to make your own ammo. They do make foot pumps for some air tanks to refill. But do your research and let me know which one you chose and why 😉

  25. Yeah, I have a couple of old (1930's) spring powered ones that still shoot well and a modern compressed air one that is powerful, accurate and nearly silent. I also have a foot pump to recharge it.

  26. I have a .45 caliber sam yang air rifle and I would definitely feel confident depending on it to take out deer sized game out to 75 yards with a hard cast bullet.

  27. No reason not to get one if you have the cash. I have a pretty powerful air rifle that will kill rabbits no problem.

  28. I'm of the opinion that an air rifle is a great prep for hunting small game. And that's it. You can get bricks of .177 bbs and pellets for fairly cheap, and they'll take out most small game like squirls and rabbits. Why waste a mote expensive bullet when a bb will do. Just don't expect it to defend you from larger wildlife or bad actors.

  29. the thing to remember is that it's a tool, and like all tools there are things it's good for and things that it's not. some of the things it's good for:

  30. I keep a .25 Remington air and a Beeman .177 for small game acquisition if needed. They are fun to shoot and cost next to nothing to shoot as tins come with hundreds of rounds and the rifles themselves are fairly inexpensive compared to firearms. My .25 has enough energy to take down small game easily.

  31. I have .22 air riffle, it’s good for practice, small critters, if you are an amazing shot, (I am not lol) and the noise is less. I also have a crossbow and that’s even less noise. I really like the crossbow, it can take down stuff a little bigger.. but neither are really good for home protection. They can be intimidating though. I had a pal tell me recently.. “if a guy comes at you with a crossbow, you know they are unhinged.”

  32. I bought two pump-type air guns. One is a Benjamin pump rifle in .22, and the other is also a Benjamin pump .22 pistol. Both are intended for hunting small game, and are very accurate at short range. I chose pump-type over CO2 cannister, because of less worry about replenishing any consumables.

  33. You could get a Seneca Aspen or similar so you don't have to have a pump or compressor. I spent years hunting with a Sherican C9. No distance shooter but perfect for small game.

  34. I’m in Ireland and would consider this my only real option. It’s a deterrent and not a lot of people have guns here. It would give me some peace of mind - more than if I had a gun on the house with my kids around etc.

  35. I think the niche may be as a practice weapon, for less experienced people, as long as you've got enough rounds and recharge for it. I can also practice with an air rifle on my property, but not with a conventional firearm.

  36. I’d also look in to crossbows to see if one of them meets your needs more than air rifles. Also some states don’t allow air rifles.

  37. When I was younger and first started hunting I used a daisy 880 for small game mainly squirrels that were eating bird feed, they work pretty good but they are pretty annoying to sight it at anything farther then 35 feet in my opinion

  38. Small animals, birds, lizards/snakes are all good items that can be collected utilizing air rifles. Worthwhile in a pinch or when you run out of .22lr

  39. Pcp air rifle I believe would be a great Idea for a prepper load out, I have a .177 cal and 25 cal for food and a 50 cal Seneca dragon claw for people and large animal like bear and deer. The reason I went with this is because it's very easy to fill and make my own slugs and also all of them are legally modified with a silencer. Hope this helps and checkout some YouTube videos on pcp rifles.

  40. Barnett makes a good slingshot. I can hit it if I can get within 30 yards. Steel bearings or a bag of marbles. Cheap and easy for small game.

  41. I would just get a .22 instead of a pellet rifle. Ammo is dirt cheap and ubiquitous. Great for small game. Significantly better for self defense than a pellet rifle, even if it’s not the ideal self defense gun. Get a lever action that holds 15 rounds or something with a decent size magazine. Then shoot it a lot and get really familiar with using it and cleaning it.

  42. Most game will amount to squirrels, rabbits and small birds. Pellets are super cheap so I would say a pellet gun is ideal prep.

  43. Anything that depends on electricity during survival times is worthless unless you have some sort of charging etc etc etc. I guess it would be solar and still, it would be worthless. You paranoids are amazing.

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