NHS page about vasectomy calling it a ball sack.

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  1. I had a vasectomy last week. For reference I am a medical professional and the me doctor doing my pre assessment was aware of this.

  2. I had a vasectomy years ago. My doctor told me afterwards, after checking the sperm:"It worked, there are no living swimmers. This does not mean your wife won't get pregnant. It just means it won't be from you." Thanks doc.

  3. I’m also a hcp and two years ago I had a baby. The surgeon who stitched me up literally said ‘it’s not neat but it does the job’ when he was done. Don’t get me wrong I don’t want to be mollycoddled or anything but cmon guys, don’t be too real…

  4. My dad got a vasectomy years ago. While he was in the waiting room, waiting along with a few other guys who were also there to get it done, a little old lady came in and went up to the desk. She was getting a wart removed or something, idk.

  5. Jar in a hospital toilet? I have to say, my post snip wanks were as pleasant as they could have been. I was provided a rather large, nicely furnished room in a hospital with a folder full of laminated research material.

  6. When I got mine done it was a few days before Christmas. The surgeon offered to wrap a ribbon around it so I could give it to my wife for her Christmas present.

  7. My favourite bit was sitting in the waiting room listening to the man before me scream.. worst bit was the awkwardness of lying naked on a table fully awake without even having a beer.

  8. I had mine last week also (weds). Being a medical man what on earth was it they sprayed on my balls at the end. It stung so much!

  9. I've literally just got home from my vasectomy and this was the top post on my feed bizarrely. My doctor also said ball and wank quite a few times, but was very professional. He also told me mine was one of the most difficult he's done in over 5000 procedures so that's a small badge of honour!

  10. this reminds me of when i went to get tested for an STI, there was this young trainee doctor who wanted to sit in with the other two professionals and he just kept on thinking out loud what he thought it was saying every STI under the sun (including aids !!). they then all decided they needed a 4th opinion so there was 4 people total talking about my junk debating what it was. v odd experience especially considering I already had a very strong sense of what it was

  11. Had my vasectomy 4 or so years ago under general anaesthetic (too pussy to do it conscious) - must say I never had any of this light heartedness. Now I’m stuck with some long term aches from inflammation which keeps reoccurring. Had scans and told nothing wrong just need to keep taking ibruprofen

  12. My vasectomy went like this. 3 thumps in each ball was apparently the anesthetic. He said you might feel some pressure, as he cuts into my sac. I promptly started screaming, he asked if I could feel that, and I said yes. The doc and nurse became very agitated/scared/worried and administered 6 shots to each nut. Not the funnest experience in my life.

  13. The last one made me chuckle 🤣 I had to have my ball sack scanned a few years back for a suspected varicocele. Righ after the procedure, as the technician was reading is report to me he said "in conclusion, I would gladly trade scrotums with you". That was strangely flattering.

  14. All government pages are aimed with a reading age of about 12, for accessibility. This includes NHS. Idea is this way everyone definitely understands it, and isn't left confused about the situation.

  15. Well can I put it to someone who works on it. Regardless of politics, the gov.uk and NHS websites are possibly one of the best and accessable websites I have EVER used. Simple. VERY clear and easy to use. It should be a universal standard for government, council, and information websites in general.

  16. i'm not british (or even from an english-speaking country, for that matter) and have been diagnosed with a few extremely rare diseases the past couple years.

  17. If you don't mind me asking, how did you come to do that for work/what's your job title? I've always kind of passively loved writing and would love to get into a career where 'writer' is something I can call myself but I just don't know where to start. Are you a civil servant?

  18. My partner was a copyright for a charity which focused on medical information and was constantly having to simplify text that academics had written.

  19. I listened to a podcast once where the guest was a lady that was in charge of making sure the nhs website language is as accessible as possible without words that are too scientific.

  20. I can confirm this. We worked with the NHS and they showed us their content style guide which describes how they write content:

  21. Can you tell the person who writes the Covid guidelines to up their game- I'm pretty sure (hope) my reading age is above that of a 12 year old, but that page was a nightmare of confusion and contradiction.

  22. The gov uk website is honestly fantastic, props to you and anyone who works on it. As a tech guy I fully appreciate the work! It’s actually a pleasure to use!

  23. I can say without a doubt that the gov.uk website is one of the best websites in terms of quality of information

  24. Wasn't there a reform for the NHS specifically a few years ago when they changed all the words for genitals to "simpler" synonyms for increased understandability? Sounds like it would make a lot of sense to me but I can't find any information on it

  25. Well someone needs to get that memo to the HMRC, because I whole heartedly assure you that the self assessment tax return is not written like this :(

  26. Ha that’s literally a line from Peep Show. The nurse says something like: “pop your pants off and let’s take a look at the little fellows.”

  27. Sometimes those visits get really weird though. I had to have a prostate examination and I asked 'where do you want me to put my trousers?', and he said 'Over there, with mine'.

  28. When my partner had his vasectomy I was with him, and they cut and then burn to make sure the tubes don't grow back. The smell was pretty gross, and he smiled and asked if we were in the mood for BBQ. We were not.

  29. I remember a campaign years ago headed by Stuart Cable (drummer from the Stereophonics) about "Bollock Cancer" that had adverts on the BBC. Clearly it was an excellent campaign as I still remember it now, and while some people may find it patronising it's clearly effective to use that kind of language.

  30. I don't like imagining them as two blokes gossiping in the corner of the testicular equivalent of an old-man pub.

  31. I once had a doctor say he needed to put some equipment "just below my boob" it made me chuckle and made the situation feel more normal than medical which I appreciated.

  32. Also doctors are legally required to use the word 'pop' in every other sentence. Just pop your trousers off. Pop yourself on the couch.

  33. In some med schools they teach using local words or the words you use (ie if you say fanny or willy or fanjo so will they). There is a translation page someone on the NHS website for foreign doctors to understand British sexual slang too. It's quite funny. I found the one for Yorkshire!

  34. I had a doctor lean in and ask in the middle of an examination “Do you mind if my student touches you?” It felt rude to say no, so I let them take turns.

  35. They have a whole page explaining why they use the language they use. Its basically to make the information accessible to everyone, regardless of their reading abilities. This is actually one of the best things about the UK but nobody appreciates it. A medical site like this to democratize access to medical information is something we should be proud of as a country. I live abroad and I still swear by it.

  36. I also noticed this when I moved to the UK. Everything seems to be very readable, not just on the NHS but also on most .gov websites. Hell, I even looked at some statute law (I'm fun at parties) and that wasn't so bad either. I can appreciate it even more coming from Bulgaria where the vocab they use in medical forms makes my head spin and legal documents are just plain old legalese.

  37. When I was studying pharmacy, the NHS websites were my first port of call for understanding the disease and treatments, I’m surprised this is not what they are normally like in other countries!

  38. I mean, I recognise the good, but do kind of wish we'd just educate our kids better. I tutor and the limited vocabulary of so many young people... It's depressing.

  39. I was involved in writing some early nhs.uk pages and we had several meetings about using the word “poo”.

  40. I had a consultation to have a vasectomy last week, the GP said "you do know that the area will be sore for some time after the procedure"

  41. I work in women's health and we have to be very clear that taking the abortion pill doesn't just make the pregnancy magically disappear - it has to go somewhere and that involves strong cramps and bleeding. Some people are shocked and seem to think you just somehow stop being pregnant and that's that. It's part of the consent form even - signing to say you understand that it is not a painless process.

  42. Had my consultation for a hysterectomy recently. Before I was referred, the doctor had to tick off a very important item: am I aware that it will cause permanent, irreversible infertility? Also confirmed by the surgeon. I understand they have to cover all the bases but the first time I laughed and said "no shit" since that's a major reason for my having it... doc said "you'd be surprised".

  43. My husband had his done five years ago. Said the soreness didn't last more than a couple of days and he took normal painkillers.

  44. Hijack question - did they give you and idea of waiting times etc? I know it’s down to location but I know a few people that have been stuck on an undefined waiting list.

  45. Had my consultation just before Xmas. Few of my mates have had them and have given conflicting opinions, some say it was awful and some say it was a breeze. Hasn't put my mind at ease much.

  46. When I had mine done, one ball really got swollen. When I went to see the doctor about it I was told I had a 'Very angry testicle'

  47. When I had my Pre vasectomy consultation via phone the nurse managed the whole conversation without using any medical terminology no mention of testicles, scrotum, penis, sperm, semen . Nothing! There were lots of, down there, that area etc It was very weird...

  48. That seems like something a prudish American would do. I'm fine with using slang terms instead of medical ones but the vague references seem like they risk being unclear.

  49. I know they try to use common terms so that people who don't necessarily know the medical terminology understand but is that really the most common informal term?

  50. They seem to be specifically wanting to refer to the scrotum, ie the actual skin bag that holds the bits, rather than the bits themselves. I imagine there are people out there who would know words like scrotum, testes, testicles etc, but perhaps aren't fully aware of what the specific distinctions are in terms of exactly which bit of anatomy each one refers to. Ball sack is pretty clear in that it is referring to the sack itself rather than the balls.

  51. Recently went to hospital to have a referral around that area. The two nurses called my testicles “testes” I didn’t no that was the medial term being a patient. I remember thinking to myself that was a bit relaxed no issue though. I learned something new that day.

  52. You’d be surprised how many men don’t know the medical term as opposed to the slang term. A friend of mine was talking about how he went about increasing fertility when trying for a baby he kept referring to his “sack” . When I responded by using the word scrotum he seemed loss for a moment and it’s only after I clarified what i meant he said he’d learned something new. Amazing how some parents themselves don’t know either.

  53. I actually had a vasectomy this morning. The surgeon was very aggressive with his manhandling of my plum. I thought he was trying to brute force the ending of the sperm factory. I actually almost passed out.

  54. Haha I had that at mine about two weeks ago. Was told one tube was thin… got a lot of bruising and my lower abdomen ached a lot (kind of like the pain after you finally let a massive piss go and your bladder has to settle down).

  55. Why did they not use Boner (erection), Jizz / Spunk (ejaculate) and Bollock Yoghurt (Semen)? I feel like it’s only half a job!

  56. Trevor, a friend of mine, had a vasectomy. He told me that the doctor said he needed to ejaculate 30 times before he could have sex - to "clean out the pipes" as it were.

  57. Not going to be having any, at least not biological but going private and hoping they don't just flat out deny me for my young age

  58. I think I’ll just use rubbers/natural family planning. I don’t see any medical reason to damage my body irreversibly to be honest! Even a few days of discomfort seems unnecessary when there are less intrusive alternatives,

  59. 💯 this. I had the snip about 12 years ago. Walked in the doctors surgery at 2pm. By 2.50pm I was sipping on a pint in the pub, job done. Bit sore in the evening after, (Friday), shagged a bird on the Saturday night after a few more pints (gently).....went on the piss Sunday/Monday, rolled into work on Tuesday to plasterboard some ceilings, not too bad, a little tender/swollen at most, right as rain within a week. Btw I had the scalpeless version of the op, heartily recommend it. Happily haven't had any more kids since, despite not bothering with the follow up checkups to test fertility

  60. I think this is fine. People understand the basics. Once whilst call handling for a GP reception I had to resort to the most basic terminology to help a chap with some learning difficulties out.

  61. This is a wonderful thing because it’s about writing for a wide audience rather than what is academically correct.

  62. Layman's terms like that help to improve client understanding. Not everyone may understand what the scrotum is, after all!

  63. I went to the clinic and used the anatomical terminology. The doc looked at me confused and said, 'Do you work in medicine?' to which I responded, 'No, I'm an English student'. Turns out she was so used to people coming in saying 'My Balls', 'My Fella', 'My Cock', that 'Phallus', 'Scrotum', 'Perineum' all threw her. Sad state of affairs.

  64. I had a difficult time explaining to a GP reception that my son had a rash on his mons pubis. Clarified to "pubic mound", but still no dice.

  65. For real they always hit me with the "are you medical?" thing. I'm not, but if I've only got 15 minutes to explain and hopefully sort the problem, you bet I'm gonna try to be as precise as possible.

  66. Should really be “Your Scrotum (ball sack)” rather than the other way around. Surely anyone who doesn’t know what a ball sack is will not find scrotum a helpful clarification?

  67. The planned parenthood website repeatedly puts “cum” in parentheses after “semen”, like every time. They also have “cumming” in there too, lol.

  68. According to other commentators people with poor reading comprehension often skip over words in brackets or struggle to reinsert them into the sentence. So it makes more sense to put the term people with better reading comprehension should understand in brackets and keep it easy as possible for those who struggle.

  69. The NHS guidelines say doctors should try to use plain English and idiomatic expressions where possible to avoid confusion and ensure clarity of communication. Some people won't know the proper medical terminology for things and won't necessarily say so.

  70. I dont think its bad to use words that are way more common and probable to be understood. Isnt the point of nhs.gov to be accessible? Not everyone is a dick doctor or whatever lol

  71. NHS has been like this for years, and its a good thing. We use terms that are most likely to be understood, avoiding complex medical terminology wherever possible except between staff.

  72. I don't see the problem, ball sack is quite descriptive and doesn't even sound that crude. If they had said 'nuts' on the other hand, that would stick out more.

  73. Had a vasectomy back in 2019, doctor, nurse and I were cracking jokes the whole procedure while listeningto light rock. 10/10 best procedure ever would do again. During the post op talk the nurse was like "after your healed and had at least 20 ejaculations use this specimen cup to catch the 21st and bring it in within 30 minutes" I asked if I should do the 21st in the parking lot or would that be an issue?

  74. Not many people realise this, and debate lords on and off the internet love to think that actually intelligent people behaving in the way I’m about to describe is actually sloppy / stupid: but being understood is often more important / effective, than being technically correct. Unfortunately lots of pseudo intellectuals mistake this practice as evidence of their superiority.

  75. Whilst working in A+E a few years ago I realised a lot of people; even those who’ve gone through the UK school system struggle with basic terms.

  76. Average reading age in Central Manchester is around 7-8. Also, many Asian patients call their toes their fingers, so maybe there's differing terms for scrotum depending on where people live also

  77. I can’t stand that the whole NHS seems to be of the opinion that the average is patient is a complete and total moron. When I was pregnant I had an awful UTI and had pus coming out of my urethra. In pregnancy, a UTI is a medical emergency because it can trigger labour. I told the doctor that I had pus coming out of my urethra and she informed me that you shouldn’t have pus coming out of your urethra, I must mean discharge coming from my vagina. I said, no, I meant my urethra and she patronisingly told that the urethra is where urine comes out and the vagina is where the baby will come out. But, “if it would put my mind at ease” she’ll swab my vagina. I was then basically pressured into having my vagina swabbed - and she never sent the swab for testing! I ended up on IV antibiotics a day later for the UTI.

  78. Many people don't know medical terminology and it's dangerous to assume they do. People who end up on the NHS website are the general public looking for some information without an explanation from a doctor.

  79. They need to accommodate people with mild learning disabilities, people who speak English as a second language, highly-conservative people who've had no sex education, etc.

  80. Intentionally written that way so some idiot doesn’t try to sue for a bruised ballsack because he doesn’t know what a scrotum is!

  81. Your meat and two veg will look worst than that time in ayia napa when you got kicked in the balls by that bird from Essex who got pissed off with your constant shitty attempts to get into her pants.

  82. According to another commenter, who writes stuff for the gov UK website, everything is written for a reading age of 12 where possible.

  83. When I had mine, the doc doing mine referred to them as my nuts. She was very casual about the whole thing and it helped a lot.

  84. Post vasectomy pain syndrome. It's really not that bad. Basically, about once a year, you get a brief feeling like you've accidentally crossed your legs wrong and it goes away like ten seconds later.

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